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welcome to this pre-countdown status

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briefing for sts-133 discovery's mission

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to the international space station uh we

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have two briefers here today to give us

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the latest on discovery's preps for its

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upcoming launch first off we have

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jeff spalding nasa test director good

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and kathy winters the shuttle weather

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officer good morning

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we'll start off with the latest and

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let's make a little bit of news here and

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then open it up to questions

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all right and thank you allard and good

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morning to everyone and uh

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normally i'll be here just providing our

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normal launch countdown status to you

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and updating you on the events leading

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up to the countdown and some of the

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major milestones but uh last night when

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we were doing uh our

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flight tank our tank press to flight

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mode uh we did have a couple of leaks

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that occurred and uh and we tried to

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repair those overnight and uh we weren't

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completely successful in doing so which

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is going to cause a little bit more work

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today as a result of that we're going to

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need to

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delay the start of our launch countdown

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a day to in order to accomplish the

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repairs required for those leaks that we

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and that would also move our launch date

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out one additional day to the the second

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of november from the first so i'll talk

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a little bit about

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the issues that we have right now

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as i mentioned while we were doing our

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pressurization last night our right-hand

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orbit maneuvering system helium tank it

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vented down unexpectedly when we were

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venting the ground side

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normally that doesn't happen those are

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generally isolated from each other which

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indicated we had an issue with our air

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half or flight side coupling on the

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between those two um

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quick disconnects that fit together that

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allow the the

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gases to flow back and forth

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um so we did attempt as i mentioned to

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do some troubleshooting and repairs on

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that that were unsuccessful

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um we did that when we took the air half

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coupling or the flight side off we did

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notice there was part of a seal or a

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o-ring in there that looked like it came

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from the ground half side we did remove

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that attempt to remake the the

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disconnects and the couplings and

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we still were unsuccessful with the

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repairs

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so our forward plan at this point is to

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change out both the flight side and the

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ground side of those couplings and we're

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going to work on that throughout the day

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we've already been putting plans in

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place this morning to do that

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we do as a result of that when we did

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our pressurization last night to the

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flight mass on the uh the orbiter

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maneuvering system we're gonna have to

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vent those tanks back down again in

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order to do the those repairs and the

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removal and replacement of those

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couplings and then as we go back in

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throughout the day then we'll uh we'll

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have to do some additional leak checks

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and and make sure those things are ready

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to fly again before we hook them back up

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together and pressurize to our flight

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mass again

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the big part of that whole process is

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the actual the repressurization of those

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tanks which is about two shifts or

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nearly 16 hours of work

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the actual repairs and removal and

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replacement of those parts isn't very

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in the past and and so it's fairly

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common when we have to go off and do

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these and it's a well-known process and

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and the folks do a really good job at

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driving us is the the need to

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depressurize our our tanks and then

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repressurize those that repressurization

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of the tanks requires a pad clear which

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precludes us from doing the normal

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things that we would do during a launch

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countdown so as that goes throughout the

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day we would not be able to pick up the

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launch countdown this afternoon if we

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had our pad clear of doing the rest of

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those operations during the

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repressurization of those tanks so

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that's why we made the decision to push

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24 hours for the start of the countdown

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um we do have a couple of those smaller

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items where there was one another

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issue with uh on our

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nitrogen side it was a ground side tank

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fill another one of those couplings that

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we're going to take the opportunity to

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fix when we get into the the countdown

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as well but that does not require any of

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the clears or the different things it's

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a it's a minor

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issue and we can do that in parallel

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so as a result of those changes that

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moves our launch countdown called

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over a day and will begin now at

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1 30 on saturday and then that'll move

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window on 417 for the middle of the

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window which we normally shoot for

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some of the major events our earliest

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tanking then would be at 6 52

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as we work towards getting into that

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um we do have our flight day 3 envelope

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3 and 4 capabilities throughout our

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talked that in the past

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flight day through rendezvous only which

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makes our window about 10 minutes or so

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so it'll be kind of a normal opportunity

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flight day 4 capability which

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essentially just adds a couple minutes

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to the window and changes when we

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rendezvous with the station

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we have plenty of pad hold time this

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we have eight days of liquid hydrogen

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seven of liquid oxygen which is good

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because our window of opportunity to get

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is up through and including the 7th of

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november so that would give us six days

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of attempts uh to get off the ground

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we needed to use more days and going

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uh the mission's 11 days as i think you

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all are aware of with one contingency

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and two weather days and the mission

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would would bump a day over to saturday

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the 13th um at about 11 00 o'clock in

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we do expect lots of lots of crowds and

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lots of interest in this launch we had a

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lot of visitors coming to ksc a lot of

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visitors coming to the local area we

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have an air show over the weekend as

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election day on the second so there will

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be a lot of people out and about on that

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the folks that work at the space center

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to take the opportunity to do early

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voting and those types of things and and

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make people aware of all those things to

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encourage them uh because it would be a

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challenge with all the uh the folks

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around the uh the area to be able to get

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out on a launch day and get out and get

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that voting done so i think folks have

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done a pretty good job taking advantage

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of as much as possible so

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i think we're really happy that we have

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the folks and the teams that are here to

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be able to handle these types of things

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these types of challenges are not

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uncommon for the team to step up and do

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what needs to be done we're going to fly

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this vehicle when it's ready to go

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and uh and we'll take a look at it later

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today and make adjustments as required

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as far as the the work we got to do but

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getting a call stations tomorrow that's

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it thanks kathy

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well the weather is looking uh very

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windy today and then it improves for the

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the weekend for the air show and also as

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tuesday we start getting concerned about

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some moisture that's going to be coming

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back up from the south as a as a strong

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trough dips into the texas area and in

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moisture will feed up from the south but

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into the area mid next week now some of

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but typically they do that with cutoff

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lows and we typically see that a lot of

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that they'll sit in place that low will

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sit in place over the texas area so with

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the moisture we mainly are concerned

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about low cloud ceilings and a chance

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for some isolated showers in the area of

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the shuttle landing facility for for the

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constraints and so with that we have a

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30 percent chance of ksc weather

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satellite picture um one thing to note

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is we do have a tropical storm sherry

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that's out in the atlantic pretty much

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straight off to our east that's not

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going to be an issue for us as the

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trough comes down and pushes that off to

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the northeast one area we are watching

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southeast of the lesser antilles that

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tropical wave is has a 60 percent chance

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of becoming a tropical cyclone according

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to the hurricane center right now within

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the next 48 hours so with that we'll be

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watching that it should track northwest

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into the caribbean over the next four to

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five days and that's something we'll

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just keep watching as we get towards

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an issue for launch day in this area but

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on is for the srb recovery ships as

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again though right now a lot of

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uncertainty with that and a lot will

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depend on what happens with that on on

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where that upper level low

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so really won't be in our area around

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launch time but we're looking for it on

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launch they'd be somewhere south of

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maybe eastern cuba or in the hispaniola

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area on launch day

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going into our let's go ahead and get to

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some of our forecasts for our tanking

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forecast we're expecting good weather

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overall just some scattered skies and

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there's a slight chance for a shower

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whenever we get those

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onshore gradient winds but done this

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morning we're expecting just light and

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variable winds

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and it's mainly going to be on the

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southeast once we start getting into the

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afternoon hours but for this time period

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light winds and no concerns for tanking

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as we get into our launch forecast we

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expect the winds to pick up from the

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southeast 10 peaking to 15 knots we do

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have a chance for a ceiling to occur we

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have a scattered deck there 3000 feet

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there is a chance it could become broken

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that's just one of our concerns and also

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a chance for a shower in the area so

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with that we have a 30 chance of ksc

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weather prohibiting launch

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if we do uh oh excuse me for the srb

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recovery weather it looks really pretty

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good out there just these three to four

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feet winds from the southeast again 10

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to 15 knots no concerns for srb recovery

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during the launch day

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if we do happen to uh oh i keep wanting

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to go into delay but we also want to

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talk about our kona support sites we

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have good weather expected there and for

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our tile sites

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going into the talcite weather on the

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next slide

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two of our tile sites are good zergosa

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marone there is a concern for a headwind

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at istres

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peaking up to 30 knots there

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if we do happen to delay 24 hours we do

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expect more moisture in the area a

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mid-level ceiling to come in and also

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some high clouds as well again we are

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concerned there is a chance that

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scattered deck at 3000 feet could go

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broken and become a ceiling if that

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happens to occur that would be a

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violation also we do expect that there

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could be a chance for some isolated

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showers in the area but we didn't want

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to overstate this too much because that

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low is so far off to the west

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and so with that we have a 30 percent

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chance of ksc weather prohibiting launch

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for the kona sites on day two everything

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looks good

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and for our towel size the weather

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actually improves the distress so we

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have three good tile sites if we happen

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to delay 24 hours

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and if we happen to delay 48 hours again

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we have similar weather conditions for

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those three days with again a ceiling at

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twenty five thousand feet there is a

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chance that that scatter deck again at

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three thousand feet could go broken so

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we'll be watching that each day winds do

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shift around more from the north on this

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day uh 12 peaking 18 knots a little bit

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stronger but no violations there with

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the wind and again there could be an

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isolated shower in the area we just have

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a chance for that but overall still just

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a thirty percent chance of ksc weather

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prohibiting launch

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the abort landing sites in the u.s look

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good on day three

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and the towel sites also look good with

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a good weather overall out in that area

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so overall we're mainly just going to be

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watching for that moisture coming up

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from the south looking for just a chance

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for a ceiling or shower in the area but

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overall a 30 chance of ksc weather

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okay we'll open it up to questions now

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please state your name news affiliation

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and uh please wait for the microphone to

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good press with two questions for jeff

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um any relation whatsoever with the

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previous um

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fuel leak or any of the repairs that may

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have been

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going on attached to that

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and secondly um

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well you can answer that first then i'll

378
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take it um no this is completely

379
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different um than any of the other stuff

380
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that we've had to um work on this

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particular ohms pod uh the the fuel leak

382
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that you would refer to earlier was a

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seal on a cross feed flange which is in

384
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a completely different location than

385
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this these are

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fairly common as as far as

387
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when we have issues with these cuties

388
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and they're not significant as far as

389
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the ability to repair them and so we've

390
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done that in the past plenty of times

391
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and how sure are you that it is the

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couplings i mean

393
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could it be um something else that might

394
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even take longer to repair

395
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well we believe just based on

396
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what we saw um on it the coupling itself

397
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with the seal actually some sealed

398
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material that shouldn't have been there

399
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we believe that um because of that um

400
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and the the leak that it had all of the

401
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other areas on the the pod itself um did

402
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not have any leaks we were able to

403
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isolate the areas and those types of

404
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things so we feel pretty confident from

405
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the from that perspective that the rest

406
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of the the vehicle is in very good shape

407
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and these are some isolated things that

408
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james in florida today forgive me i just

409
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want to make sure i'm understanding kind

410
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of where the where the leak issues are

411
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is is it at the attachment between uh

412
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the lines you're using to

413
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load the the gas and and the vehicle is

414
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that

415
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on the pot itself there's there's an

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area in which there are

417
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different

418
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couplings where we can hook up

419
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lines to them that have either

420
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gas lines or fluid lines that connect to

421
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those areas and this is under a normal

422
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servicing panel that's there

423
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one of those lines that is a helium line

424
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that we use to pressurize these tanks to

425
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flight mass is in between that

426
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connection and the vehicle is where we

427
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had to leak and we said we found some

428
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material there that says

429
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that there may be some contamination in

430
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that poppet on the flight side even

431
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though we were able to get it to seat to

432
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some extent we're still concerned that

433
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it may not seat

434
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you know throughout the flight so we

435
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want to make sure that we have a good

436
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understanding of that and change it out

437
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as well as the ground side when we

438
00:14:12,389 --> 00:14:10,320
reconnect and go ahead and pressurize

439
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those tanks

440
00:14:16,389 --> 00:14:14,079
and you're talking about the fuel leak

441
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also this this pod was was removed

442
00:14:21,189 --> 00:14:18,079
during the flow to replace a helium

443
00:14:22,389 --> 00:14:21,199
valve that's also unrelated just

444
00:14:24,790 --> 00:14:22,399
kind of coincidence that all these

445
00:14:27,030 --> 00:14:24,800
things are happening in or around the uh

446
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the area of this particular pod yeah the

447
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uh and again i get i

448
00:14:34,870 --> 00:14:33,040
the the fact that we have um the

449
00:14:37,110 --> 00:14:34,880
ground half couplings or even flight

450
00:14:39,430 --> 00:14:37,120
half couplings that leak is

451
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i is fairly common in as much as that we

452
00:14:42,870 --> 00:14:41,600
do see those during servicing operations

453
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and those types of things and we often

454
00:14:47,030 --> 00:14:45,120
repair those either during those

455
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operations or in between missions and

456
00:14:51,189 --> 00:14:49,680
stuff they have a propensity to to have

457
00:14:52,389 --> 00:14:51,199
some leaks and some issues especially

458
00:14:54,069 --> 00:14:52,399
during the mating process you can have

459
00:14:55,990 --> 00:14:54,079
some issues with those but these are

460
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completely separate locations completely

461
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separate

462
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okay

463
00:15:07,189 --> 00:15:06,150
uh bill harwood cbs just to follow that

464
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for a second

465
00:15:09,990 --> 00:15:08,800
where that access panel is if i'm

466
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looking at the back of the pod and

467
00:15:13,990 --> 00:15:12,000
there's an ohm's rocket nozzle is the

468
00:15:15,590 --> 00:15:14,000
panel somewhere on that surface or is it

469
00:15:17,990 --> 00:15:15,600
somewhere else that's where it is yes

470
00:15:19,829 --> 00:15:18,000
it's on the 5902 door which is on that

471
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the main servicing panel that's on that

472
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side and in the vertical that would be

473
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underneath and coming up that way and

474
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there's a rack that goes up there you

475
00:15:27,030 --> 00:15:25,600
mentioned traffic on election day if it

476
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comes down to that's when you guys

477
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decide to do your launch uh i realize

478
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this is not a question for you and it's

479
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for upper management but since you're

480
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here um can you imagine that they would

481
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give any consideration to go into

482
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wednesday since you'd still have five

483
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launch days in and

484
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avoid the traffic with schools letting

485
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out and people trying to vote and all of

486
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that going on at the same time you guys

487
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are trying to launch

488
00:15:51,430 --> 00:15:50,000
the ability for us to launch on tuesday

489
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actually becomes a little less complex

490
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than it would have been if we were

491
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launched on monday the issue becomes an

492
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issue for us during this if we had where

493
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to not be able to launch it had to do a

494
00:16:00,949 --> 00:15:59,279
scrub turnaround

495
00:16:02,230 --> 00:16:00,959
the ability to send people home through

496
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the traffic and the types of things that

497
00:16:06,470 --> 00:16:04,240
we're expecting combined with maybe some

498
00:16:07,509 --> 00:16:06,480
additional folks that are out for doing

499
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voting

500
00:16:10,150 --> 00:16:08,800
would be more of an issue for people to

501
00:16:12,230 --> 00:16:10,160
be able to leave the space center to go

502
00:16:14,389 --> 00:16:12,240
home get some rest and come back to work

503
00:16:15,749 --> 00:16:14,399
that won't happen until after that event

504
00:16:18,069 --> 00:16:15,759
so it wouldn't really affect our first

505
00:16:20,389 --> 00:16:18,079
day of launch on tuesday would be more a

506
00:16:22,710 --> 00:16:20,399
concern for wednesday we've set up

507
00:16:25,110 --> 00:16:22,720
a process in place to make sure that we

508
00:16:27,110 --> 00:16:25,120
understand through the supervisory chain

509
00:16:28,550 --> 00:16:27,120
um that folks are able to get home get

510
00:16:29,829 --> 00:16:28,560
appropriate rest and get back to work

511
00:16:31,990 --> 00:16:29,839
and if there are issues we've set up

512
00:16:33,110 --> 00:16:32,000
some hotlines and some other types of

513
00:16:34,069 --> 00:16:33,120
things that we can make sure that we

514
00:16:35,990 --> 00:16:34,079
have

515
00:16:37,990 --> 00:16:36,000
all the right folks here and the ability

516
00:16:39,430 --> 00:16:38,000
to do the right thing with the team and

517
00:16:41,189 --> 00:16:39,440
we'll make that evaluation prior to

518
00:16:42,710 --> 00:16:41,199
going into tanking if we need to

519
00:16:44,389 --> 00:16:42,720
just for the record you guys are

520
00:16:46,230 --> 00:16:44,399
pressing hard to make tuesday if you can

521
00:16:47,910 --> 00:16:46,240
make it and and those issues traffic

522
00:16:49,269 --> 00:16:47,920
collection whatever won't be a factor in

523
00:16:54,790 --> 00:16:49,279
the decision to press ahead right now

524
00:16:58,550 --> 00:16:56,949
how about ken in the front

525
00:17:00,710 --> 00:16:58,560
yeah sorry

526
00:17:02,470 --> 00:17:00,720
hi thank you ken kramer for space flight

527
00:17:04,390 --> 00:17:02,480
magazine and the planetary society can

528
00:17:06,789 --> 00:17:04,400
you talk a little bit on jeff

529
00:17:09,110 --> 00:17:06,799
about the history of this type of repair

530
00:17:11,029 --> 00:17:09,120
is there any issue with it being

531
00:17:12,630 --> 00:17:11,039
since you found it at the at the pad

532
00:17:15,270 --> 00:17:12,640
instead of in the uh

533
00:17:17,909 --> 00:17:15,280
in the vab or the opf any difficulty

534
00:17:19,669 --> 00:17:17,919
with access or change in access well

535
00:17:21,110 --> 00:17:19,679
normally we wouldn't find this type of

536
00:17:22,949 --> 00:17:21,120
event um

537
00:17:25,909 --> 00:17:22,959
in the vab because we don't have these

538
00:17:27,270 --> 00:17:25,919
systems connected in that facility

539
00:17:29,350 --> 00:17:27,280
occasionally you will see this type of

540
00:17:30,549 --> 00:17:29,360
thing in the opf but often it's during

541
00:17:32,310 --> 00:17:30,559
when we're actually doing the fluid

542
00:17:33,510 --> 00:17:32,320
transfers and some of the gas transfers

543
00:17:35,029 --> 00:17:33,520
that we would do at the pad and that

544
00:17:36,470 --> 00:17:35,039
servicing operation is normally

545
00:17:38,150 --> 00:17:36,480
performed at the pack because they're

546
00:17:41,029 --> 00:17:38,160
hazardous operations and they're

547
00:17:43,750 --> 00:17:41,039
performed at that particular location

548
00:17:45,510 --> 00:17:43,760
we do also hook up these type of

549
00:17:47,190 --> 00:17:45,520
connections when the pod is removed from

550
00:17:49,909 --> 00:17:47,200
the vehicle down when it's doing its

551
00:17:51,350 --> 00:17:49,919
offline processing as well so we do see

552
00:17:52,630 --> 00:17:51,360
those types of things the repairs are

553
00:17:55,270 --> 00:17:52,640
generally the same in any of those

554
00:17:56,630 --> 00:17:55,280
locations um and and

555
00:17:58,549 --> 00:17:56,640
generally it's just to remove and

556
00:17:59,990 --> 00:17:58,559
replace the the components that they

557
00:18:01,270 --> 00:18:00,000
need to and there's some soft goods in

558
00:18:02,870 --> 00:18:01,280
there and things but they generally

559
00:18:05,750 --> 00:18:02,880
remove the whole pop it and replace it

560
00:18:08,070 --> 00:18:05,760
because it's easier easier to do so

561
00:18:09,909 --> 00:18:08,080
so has this particular repair ever been

562
00:18:15,270 --> 00:18:09,919
done at the pad before or is this the

563
00:18:19,110 --> 00:18:16,950
looking around for other hands anybody

564
00:18:21,190 --> 00:18:19,120
else hey marshall have a follow-up

565
00:18:23,270 --> 00:18:21,200
associated press for jeff what um as far

566
00:18:25,350 --> 00:18:23,280
as voting by the launch team

567
00:18:27,350 --> 00:18:25,360
um had you already taken that into

568
00:18:28,390 --> 00:18:27,360
account previously and instructed your

569
00:18:30,470 --> 00:18:28,400
teams to

570
00:18:32,230 --> 00:18:30,480
do early voting or how are they going to

571
00:18:33,830 --> 00:18:32,240
be able to vote if they want to and also

572
00:18:35,590 --> 00:18:33,840
support a launch

573
00:18:38,470 --> 00:18:35,600
and that was something that we

574
00:18:41,270 --> 00:18:38,480
recognized you know a long time ago that

575
00:18:44,310 --> 00:18:41,280
the possibility for the dates to line up

576
00:18:45,669 --> 00:18:44,320
could be a realistic event so we did

577
00:18:47,669 --> 00:18:45,679
encourage the team we have throughout

578
00:18:49,750 --> 00:18:47,679
the entire pad flow to take advantage of

579
00:18:51,029 --> 00:18:49,760
early voting absentee voting any other

580
00:18:52,630 --> 00:18:51,039
types of means because we certainly want

581
00:18:55,669 --> 00:18:52,640
to give everybody the opportunity to get

582
00:18:56,789 --> 00:18:55,679
out and and do that on election day if

583
00:18:57,590 --> 00:18:56,799
they were unable to do so on election

584
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day so we want to make sure that

585
00:19:01,510 --> 00:18:59,840
everybody has the ability to to vote and

586
00:19:02,630 --> 00:19:01,520
and to do those types of things so i

587
00:19:04,789 --> 00:19:02,640
think we've done a pretty good job

588
00:19:06,230 --> 00:19:04,799
overall of making people aware that

589
00:19:07,669 --> 00:19:06,240
there could be potentially those things

590
00:19:08,950 --> 00:19:07,679
line up and it would generally just be

591
00:19:10,390 --> 00:19:08,960
the folks that are there on launch day

592
00:19:11,990 --> 00:19:10,400
itself it's the launch team even though

593
00:19:13,110 --> 00:19:12,000
that's a lot of folks but

594
00:19:14,549 --> 00:19:13,120
a lot of other people are not

595
00:19:15,990 --> 00:19:14,559
necessarily there and the early voting

596
00:19:17,270 --> 00:19:16,000
process i think here at least in brevard

597
00:19:19,590 --> 00:19:17,280
goes all the way through including

598
00:19:21,430 --> 00:19:19,600
saturday and and we've like i said we've

599
00:19:23,510 --> 00:19:21,440
been encouraging folks right along

600
00:19:25,270 --> 00:19:23,520
providing information about uh you know

601
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where they can do uh voting and those

602
00:19:30,390 --> 00:19:26,320
types of things throughout the

603
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approximately

604
00:19:36,470 --> 00:19:34,000
inclusive of

605
00:19:38,870 --> 00:19:36,480
in the prime firing room there's

606
00:19:40,789 --> 00:19:38,880
probably about 125 folks in the private

607
00:19:42,150 --> 00:19:40,799
firing room

608
00:19:45,270 --> 00:19:42,160
there's a lot of other support functions

609
00:19:47,830 --> 00:19:46,390
okay

610
00:19:51,270 --> 00:19:47,840
james

611
00:19:53,909 --> 00:19:51,280
you just uh

612
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detail again exactly the timing of of

613
00:19:58,390 --> 00:19:56,000
the go forward plan um

614
00:19:59,830 --> 00:19:58,400
when when should these couplings be have

615
00:20:01,830 --> 00:19:59,840
been replaced when will the repress

616
00:20:04,149 --> 00:20:01,840
start and finish and therefore when i

617
00:20:06,230 --> 00:20:04,159
guess when we know for sure that um you

618
00:20:07,590 --> 00:20:06,240
are go to uh start you know gold

619
00:20:09,990 --> 00:20:07,600
stations pick up the countdown all that

620
00:20:11,750 --> 00:20:10,000
tomorrow the details of

621
00:20:13,190 --> 00:20:11,760
exactly how those are working out or in

622
00:20:14,710 --> 00:20:13,200
a meeting that's going on currently

623
00:20:17,590 --> 00:20:14,720
because this is really a late breaking

624
00:20:19,110 --> 00:20:17,600
item as you all are probably aware

625
00:20:20,789 --> 00:20:19,120
so we are working out the details of

626
00:20:22,149 --> 00:20:20,799
exactly how and we're sequencing

627
00:20:24,230 --> 00:20:22,159
sequencing the work we started with the

628
00:20:25,669 --> 00:20:24,240
tank vent which is already done at this

629
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point to get us into a configuration so

630
00:20:28,230 --> 00:20:27,120
we can begin

631
00:20:30,710 --> 00:20:28,240
doing that additional work we're

632
00:20:33,590 --> 00:20:30,720
prepping to do the coupling removal and

633
00:20:35,270 --> 00:20:33,600
replacements we also have to gain access

634
00:20:36,950 --> 00:20:35,280
and remove another door and

635
00:20:38,710 --> 00:20:36,960
and do some additional vent downs prior

636
00:20:41,110 --> 00:20:38,720
to getting into the final

637
00:20:42,789 --> 00:20:41,120
final repress later but um

638
00:20:44,710 --> 00:20:42,799
it'll be this afternoon sometime i don't

639
00:20:46,549 --> 00:20:44,720
have those specifics on the times

640
00:20:50,630 --> 00:20:46,559
because again that those meetings are

641
00:20:53,270 --> 00:20:51,909
for the removal and replacement of the

642
00:20:55,430 --> 00:20:53,280
parts okay before we'll be able to get

643
00:20:57,110 --> 00:20:55,440
into the remainder so your confidence

644
00:20:59,669 --> 00:20:57,120
level in

645
00:21:01,029 --> 00:20:59,679
turning around for the second is is very

646
00:21:03,510 --> 00:21:01,039
high then

647
00:21:05,669 --> 00:21:03,520
right now i think it is you know

648
00:21:07,350 --> 00:21:05,679
and again it'll it'll as always it's

649
00:21:08,950 --> 00:21:07,360
contingent upon the work but we're very

650
00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:08,960
confident in the workforce we trust our

651
00:21:12,470 --> 00:21:10,559
ability to do this job there's plenty of

652
00:21:16,710 --> 00:21:12,480
experience out there on this so right

653
00:21:20,549 --> 00:21:18,789
okay

654
00:21:22,310 --> 00:21:20,559
i was just asking about the likelihood

655
00:21:23,590 --> 00:21:22,320
on tuesday i know with the i understand

656
00:21:25,029 --> 00:21:23,600
the elections not having any

657
00:21:26,390 --> 00:21:25,039
consideration as to whether or not you

658
00:21:27,909 --> 00:21:26,400
guys are going to go up but the

659
00:21:29,190 --> 00:21:27,919
likelihood of it happening that day i

660
00:21:30,549 --> 00:21:29,200
know we have a lot of people wondering

661
00:21:32,149 --> 00:21:30,559
you know it's going to be an intense day

662
00:21:34,710 --> 00:21:32,159
but the likelihood of it happening on

663
00:21:36,149 --> 00:21:34,720
tuesday what do you see

664
00:21:37,990 --> 00:21:36,159
which was

665
00:21:39,510 --> 00:21:38,000
at this point well assuming we have the

666
00:21:41,350 --> 00:21:39,520
we get the repair done which you know at

667
00:21:42,310 --> 00:21:41,360
this point we're assuming that we are i

668
00:21:44,470 --> 00:21:42,320
you know

669
00:21:46,390 --> 00:21:44,480
that we would launch on that date as a

670
00:21:47,909 --> 00:21:46,400
as a launch date i think that

671
00:21:49,669 --> 00:21:47,919
um that was asked a little bit earlier

672
00:21:50,789 --> 00:21:49,679
but we would use that date if in fact we

673
00:21:53,909 --> 00:21:50,799
can get the work done to get to that

674
00:21:58,070 --> 00:21:55,190
just one more really quick one what is

675
00:21:59,590 --> 00:21:58,080
the nitrogen in this case used for the

676
00:22:01,750 --> 00:21:59,600
the issue with the nitrogen company what

677
00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:01,760
is that system used for um it's used for

678
00:22:05,190 --> 00:22:04,000
both for valving and also for um allerge

679
00:22:09,270 --> 00:22:05,200
pressure on some of the smaller tanks

680
00:22:14,549 --> 00:22:10,830
other

681
00:22:16,630 --> 00:22:14,559
questions ciao for space.com um question

682
00:22:18,310 --> 00:22:16,640
for jeff you mentioned that when the

683
00:22:19,990 --> 00:22:18,320
leaks were discovered you tried to do

684
00:22:21,669 --> 00:22:20,000
some overnight repairs i just wanted to

685
00:22:23,029 --> 00:22:21,679
go into a little bit more detail about

686
00:22:24,710 --> 00:22:23,039
what you attempted to do and why they

687
00:22:27,029 --> 00:22:24,720
were unsuccessful overnight well the

688
00:22:28,149 --> 00:22:27,039
standard process is to remove

689
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and and

690
00:22:32,230 --> 00:22:30,000
inspect both sides to see if there's any

691
00:22:34,230 --> 00:22:32,240
obvious either contamination

692
00:22:36,070 --> 00:22:34,240
scoring things that may have caused the

693
00:22:38,149 --> 00:22:36,080
the system to leak

694
00:22:39,750 --> 00:22:38,159
and then if they look

695
00:22:41,110 --> 00:22:39,760
good we'll go ahead and remate them and

696
00:22:43,190 --> 00:22:41,120
then try again sometimes they receive

697
00:22:45,110 --> 00:22:43,200
themselves these poppets do sometimes we

698
00:22:46,950 --> 00:22:45,120
can um bump up the pressure a little bit

699
00:22:48,230 --> 00:22:46,960
cause them to re-seat and we try all of

700
00:22:49,750 --> 00:22:48,240
those different things and in this case

701
00:22:51,669 --> 00:22:49,760
we did see some contamination there as i

702
00:22:53,190 --> 00:22:51,679
mentioned there was some seal portion of

703
00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:53,200
a seal there that should not been in

704
00:22:57,029 --> 00:22:54,720
that location

705
00:22:59,029 --> 00:22:57,039
we removed that remade it and attempted

706
00:23:00,470 --> 00:22:59,039
to try to get the uh the system to to

707
00:23:02,230 --> 00:23:00,480
lock up and we we did get it to

708
00:23:03,430 --> 00:23:02,240
eventually lock up but

709
00:23:04,870 --> 00:23:03,440
we weren't really comfortable with that

710
00:23:06,470 --> 00:23:04,880
configuration at this point knowing that

711
00:23:14,149 --> 00:23:06,480
there was possibly some contamination in

712
00:23:18,630 --> 00:23:16,149
mark boucher spacecraft how many times

713
00:23:20,950 --> 00:23:18,640
has this happened at the pad

714
00:23:23,110 --> 00:23:20,960
i don't have the exact number how many

715
00:23:26,390 --> 00:23:23,120
times we can probably get that at some

716
00:23:31,029 --> 00:23:28,710
okay anything else

717
00:23:32,390 --> 00:23:31,039
okay not see any other questions um i

718
00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:32,400
guess it's needless to say but as i'll

719
00:23:36,230 --> 00:23:34,559
say the tv schedule and the briefing

720
00:23:37,669 --> 00:23:36,240
schedules are in flux and we're in the

721
00:23:39,750 --> 00:23:37,679
process of reevaluating that right now

722
00:23:40,870 --> 00:23:39,760
to to get all that locked in so i can't

723
00:23:43,110 --> 00:23:40,880
exactly tell you when our next briefing

724
00:23:45,390 --> 00:23:43,120
will be but uh please stay tuned to uh

725
00:23:47,830 --> 00:23:45,400
to nasa.gov and to

726
00:23:48,870 --> 00:23:47,840
www.nasa.gov shuttle that'll have the

727
00:23:50,390 --> 00:23:48,880
updated

728
00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:50,400
shuttle schedule as well as the briefing